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OsirisX
Mar 19th, 2003, 04:53 PM
Hi, I'm used to programming in VB, PHP, and even perl. But Java is too much for me to understand. Is there an easy ide or possibly some ide that I can write in a different language that is simpler and it compile into java code or compiled java?

Any help would be much appreciated.

abhijit
Mar 19th, 2003, 10:18 PM
Hi Osirix,
I used to be a visual basic programmer too until I shifted around to java a few months ago. I have never looked back.
I had programmed earlier in C, ASP and VB 6.0.

Java is just another programming language. There is absolutely no reason to get worried over it.

I suggest that you start off with JSP, since that is the really close to PHP. You will definitely learn java quickly if you do that. One good site worth visiting is the SUN's tutorial site.

YOU WILL DEFINITELY TAKE SOME TIME TO LEARN AWT, BUT I THINK JSP YOU CAN KICKSTART VERY QUICKLY.

Some good ide's are Kawa AND Symantec Visual Cafe
Visual Cafe closely simulates the VB IDE. You won't get the drop-down intellisense feature in Kawa, but you will get it in Visual Cafe.

Keep the javadocs handy and if you have any problems you can simply post them in this forum. Happy to help.

Cheers!
Abhijit


Originally posted by OsirisX
Hi, I'm used to programming in VB, PHP, and even perl. But Java is too much for me to understand. Is there an easy ide or possibly some ide that I can write in a different language that is simpler and it compile into java code or compiled java?
Any help would be much appreciated.

OsirisX
Mar 19th, 2003, 10:21 PM
I appreciate your enthusiasm and links. Thank you. But I really would like to be able to make applets with point and clickablity and stuff like in VB.
I'd use Visual J++ but i found it to create very IE-biased applets.

Will Visual Cafe be what I need for applets?


Thank you again,
James

abhijit
Mar 19th, 2003, 10:40 PM
Yes you can.

-Abhijit

Dillinger4
Mar 20th, 2003, 12:38 AM
OsirisX it seems that you are asking to program in another language to be compiled into java byte code. I dont think this is possible since to get java byte code you would have to use the java compiler and to use the java compiler you would have to program in java. If you can understand Visual Basic you should be able to understand the concepts of java. Why not give it a try? Im not to familiar with some of the IDE's that abhijit mentioned but i am sure that they are good. Ive used Borlands JBuilder for years with no complaints.

OsirisX
Mar 20th, 2003, 09:07 AM
Right. I want to program in some simpler, VB-like language and have it interpreted and compile as java. I've seen books for stuff like this in the past but they've failed. And It takes sooo much code to produce the simplest of things in java, just like in c.
I want a RAD method of producing Java bytecode.

OsirisX
Mar 20th, 2003, 09:12 AM
Maybe something like JVCoding2 (http://alnijres.freeservers.com/jvc2e/)
but more robust and professional.

Dillinger4
Mar 20th, 2003, 11:37 AM
Sounds like you simply want drag and drop for GUI components. Im pretty sure that some IDE support this not sure which ones though. I still do things the hard way. :)

CornedBee
Mar 23rd, 2003, 02:36 AM
I think the Borland Java IDE supports that.

marnitzg
Apr 5th, 2003, 06:30 AM
Sun One is free. Think you should be able to find it on java.sun.com but don't quote me on that

CornedBee
Apr 15th, 2003, 11:21 AM
Originally posted by marnitzg
Sun One is free. Think you should be able to find it on java.sun.com but don't quote me on that

:D

marnitzg
Apr 15th, 2003, 01:18 PM
:rolleyes:

ccoder
Apr 16th, 2003, 02:47 PM
This might be of interest: http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,3959,935887,00.asp

The site seems to down at the moment, although I was able to get in a couple of hours ago.

wpearsall
Feb 6th, 2004, 06:33 PM
Originally posted by abhijit
Some good ide's are Kawa AND Symantec Visual Cafe
Visual Cafe closely simulates the VB IDE. You won't get the drop-down intellisense feature in Kawa, but you will get it in Visual Cafe.


do you have links to these IDE's?

[is just learning Java and wanna get an head start :D]

Tnx