No more cup of joe for microsoft?????

[Gaurav]

Hiya,
Point#1 Do not believe Everything your prof' tells u, at face value mate :-P take it with a pinch of salt....

Yes Microsoft is canning Java, but only because if they wanna survive in the Market they bloody well need too!!! They donna really have an option as far as the net goes...

As far as learning the language goes.. first question WHY are u learning a language?? for the net?? for kicks?? for a credit?? if u're doing it for kicks start with C++ i still believe its the most Kick ASS OOPS language there is...

java is nice if u're a newbie n wanna go the EASY way... But i still believe that if u learn C++ then u pretty much know 2 languages immed... C++ n Java :)

Java is the Language of the net, n it may very well become the language of the future if it EVER gets fast enough.... so its really a matter of choice based on need...


cheers
Gaurav

[fallnwrld]

If ya want to learn something net related, i think you should mess with shockwave or something thats a little more current, so what you learn can be put to use for at least another 6 years.

[Iain17]

Microsoft are indeed droping java. They will however be reselling tools from another developer.

Read about it (http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1003-200-2240702.html)

Have a look at the specs for visual studio 7, java doesn't fit in anymore, forget it, learn XML, that is the future of the net, and is being integrated throughout vb7. Caren't wait...vb7 is going to ROCK loud.

We have held up our web site till it's release, cause the demo we saw was hot.....

Now counting 1,2,3....10 till the java fanatics start screaming

[noone]

That is interesting, I remember reading less then a month ago a direct quote from a MIcrosoft representative that they had no plans to drop J++, plans changed. Jethro is right that Microsoft J++ was never standard Java anyways, and that was the reason behind the lawsuit that seems to have killed J++. This probably will not have too much impact on Java simply for the reason that Java isnt mainly used on the client right now anyways. Sun pushing a new web start technology to get Java back on the client, but we'll just have to wait and see.
Come on Jetrho, telling someone to learn XML instead of Java would be like telling someone to learn HTML instead of Perl. They are used for different things and are both useful. In fact XML and Java go to gether quite well.

On the demos we have seen, creating web-enabled apps and sites is going to be as simple as any other project you might do for the desktop. MS deserve a big thumbs up for that.

A knowledge of XML is only going to help in this, cause you can generate the web project and then hook in your own code, whilest allowing vb to handle all the stuff that java is used for.

Persumably however this will only be ASP compatiable rather than all OSs......anyone know if java runs on BeOs????

The question people have to ask is will unix continue to be the dominate os for the web, or will NT servers super-seed it.

If you think a unix/linux dominated www is the future learn java, if you believe NT will come to dominate, then java is maybe not the best language to learn...

We are still argueing this point. Personally l want a monster Sun box with Unix and pay for the java development we need. But others are arguing NT. Considering it will be a vb software site l guess there is some point to that.