Visual C++ in 21 Days?

[Crypt]

Hiyas,

I am interested in learning vc++ seeing that it just sitting on my visual studio cd not being used lol. But does anyone know of an online tutorial for it? because at the moment I don't even understand the interface lol. and I heard that a good set of books for programming are the Teach Yourself what ever in 21 Days, I never read a book on vb, I just learnt from a few tutorials online. so I was wondering if anyones knows if there is a Teach Yourself Visual C++ in 21 Days? and if there is an online copy of it somewhere? or know of any other Visual C++ tutorial for the complete beginner to vc++.

thanx.

[parksie]

There are lots of tutorials on MSDN: http://msdn.microsoft.com/library
and on the VS CD, which should have been installed along with MSVC.

[kb244]

My sugestion for you , if you have never learned C++ before, I would start learning Standard C++, try "C++ From the ground up" then move onto something more oriented to the IDE like "Special Edition Using VC++ 6"

Yes there is a book called Teach Yourself Visual C++ in 21 Days and it is great for beginners. I read that book to help me learn C++ and it worked fine. There was no need for me to learn Standard C++ all all.

Here is an article regarding C vs C++.

http://www.planet-source-code.com/vb/scripts/ShowCode.asp?txtCodeId=537&lngWId=3

goto http://www.informit.com

you'll find many online books regarding different subject, and yes I did see a Teach yourself Visual C++ 6 in 21 days.. there are many other for VC5 or 4.. but these books are completely free.. you do however have to get a account which is also free.. but to read the books you need to log in.. just like to post a message you need to put your username and password...

HOPE THAT HELPS ALL OF YOU!! lol oh and uhh there's VB books there too.. acctually there's atleast 50 different types of books up there.. go there that should help ya!

[kb244]

Megatron I beg to differ, leanring VC++ in 21 days, helps you greatly with the IDe, but it is not going to teach you alot of C++ in 21 days, which I why I recomended the standard, I dont belive that it is beneficial to learn off of just one compiler(especially VC++) , but thats just my opinion.

kb.. many of the things that you see in todays market are made in different languages.. Most of them are made in C/C++.. if they're made in C/C++ you have 90% of them made in VC++.. so it would be better if you learned VC++ and C++ with it at the same time. Learning to use VC++ and it's powerfull features it will make it easier for a programmer later on to go into the gamming or application industry and not be like, "I don't know how to use VC++ but I do know C++" cause many of the companies today use VC++ and not Borland or anyother C++ compiler. So if you have VC and you want to learn about it.. then it's a good choice, if you don't have it and want to learn C++ then it's not a good choice, but in this case the guy has VC++ and I doubt he'll be using BOrland or anyother C++ compiler, so why not just learn to use VC++ first.. then once you're comfortable with that you can learn the whole C++ language. VC is pretty good with all the wizards and stuff, and if u know how to use them then you're in good shape..

Originally posted by kb244
Megatron I beg to differ, leanring VC++ in 21 days, helps you greatly with the IDe, but it is not going to teach you alot of C++ in 21 days, which I why I recomended the standard, I dont belive that it is beneficial to learn off of just one compiler(especially VC++) , but thats just my opinion.

It's beneficial to learn off VC++ because, as WildGhost said, it is most common one that industries use. Also, if you read the artical, they mention that you should learn C++ first then learn C then if you want you can learn C after because in today's world, nobody uses C any more. They use C++. (VC++ compiler to be exact).

well megatron, people still use C, infact, the Genesis3d engine was/is made in C, quake2, which was made in VC++5 was also made in C. A lot of stuff are still being made in C (using the VC++ compiler as u stated) so it's probably a good idea to learn C as well, but the thing is that it's better if you learn C++ (like you said) becasue C++ is an extended version of C.. and it's good to know both, but C++ better because of the OOP (object oriented programming)functionality. BUT VB IS STILL BEST! naw j/k but sure it will take a huge step towards becoming as fast as VC in version 7... I can't wait unitll then (but I have to so whatever)... :)

[Crypt]

thanx for all of the info :)

WildGhost, I'm sure many people still use C. What I meant is that it's becoming obsolete, slowly. When C++ was first introduced, I'm sure that the majority still used C for a while. Also, I don't doubt that C has the capabilites to create powerful tools/games, but C++ is a better way of doing so. It's Object Oriented, support for classes and you can still use structures and enums.

BUT VB IS STILL BEST! naw j/k
VB, may not be the best, but it's a lot easier than C++. Especially for creating powerful Database Applications.

True Megatron.. True.. lol as I am arguing in that one post about VC vs VB.. stupid post really.. cause you really can't compare them 2... they're not made for the same purpose.. just because people would like to use them for the same purpose doesn't mean it's the same.. ok i odn't know what i"m talking about but whatever.. I'm drunk.. lol

I dont know much C++ but from what I have seen so far, its pretty simple, its VC++ IDE that I cant get a hold of :(
I can do OK C++ functions and stuff, but I can only create console applications, I dont even know how to add a "Form" if its even called that in VC++ :(

I am trying to learn the compiler first, because I have like 2 books on c/c++ and it looks kinda simple, but I dont know how to use the compiler.

[parksie]

Under VC++, there are two methods for Windows programs:

1. Use MFC (my preferred option)
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You use the resource editor and ClassWizard to set things up

2. Use the Win32 API
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Use the resource editor as normal, but functions like
CreateDialog(...). MAKEINTRESOURCE(IDD_MAIN_DIALOG) is a common occurrence when using this.

I prefer MFC because it makes TINY programs, and it's much easier in an increasingly object-oriented world. There are loads of example programs for both methods on MSDN (and the VC++ CD).