uhh.. well I think I mentioned somewhere here that I was making a trojan virus (a harmless one) that people could use to learn Winsock and it's capabilites and stuff like that.. Well if you want to go and check it out it's on Planet Source Code.. and yes please tell me that it sux cause i know it sux and it's not for PROs out there it's only for beginner people who're sick and tired of those SIMPLE chat programs.. well my program sux cause I didn't have time to do comments.. but if you can read it and understand it.. then you'll learn a lot from it.. GOOD LUCK AND DON'T FREAKING FLAME ME!!!!!!!