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Geespot
Apr 4th, 2002, 07:20 AM
I been coding in the Basic language for about 4 years now, and when i started VB i thought it was so easy and picked it up straight away.

But now after i tried the vb.net beta 2, i found it actually hard. I have trouble making applications with it. Small sample apps that takes me 20 mins in vb6, takes me all day without success in vb.net.

I must say, i think it was a good idea making VB fully object orientated and its similarites to vc++, but its like a new language to learn and i find trouble coding.

Just would like to know if anyone else has any trouble or if anyway else picked it up straight away.

Cander
Apr 4th, 2002, 08:55 AM
well harder is a relative term really. It is not any harder than VB6 or QBasic..just different. When you get used to doing things one way, seeing a big change can be overwhelming..It is just a matter of learning the differences. it is like when i went from QBasic 4.5 to VB4..I thought it was extrememly difficult. 2 weeks later, I was thinking to myself "why did I think this was hard?"

ender_pete
Apr 4th, 2002, 09:09 AM
dont worry geespot, it is a huge diffrence and if you have never done object oriented programming before it will be a whole new world to you, just get some books and read and learn you'll overcome the learning curve.

Tygur
Apr 4th, 2002, 09:17 PM
At first, I also found VB.NET very hard to use. I used the help files extensively, and getting anything done took a very long time. But I suddenly found that I was getting used to it after only a few days.

I've also been using VB for a very long time (4+ years), but I guess the fact that I've been toying with Java over that past few weeks probably helped.

Jop
Apr 5th, 2002, 05:34 AM
Don't worry GeeSpot, once you get used to the namespaces and how OOP works, it's a piece of cake... I even thought it was getting quite boring since there are so many things built in, that I decided to learn C# now ;)

the site http://www.gotdotnet.com really helped me alot about the Framework and the language changes in VB... check it out, you'll learn it in a jiffy!
http://www.gotdotnet.com/team/vb/ for the VB section there, but sure to check out the other sections too!

Tygur: You have the coolest avatar I ever seen, man :D

Magiaus
Apr 6th, 2002, 03:36 AM
before i do anything i open the documentation and when i go to find an answer i tend to forget what i was doing before because of all the new feature i find while looking for the answer to my question

i think if i hadn't gotten into c++ a year ago i would be overwhelmed by all the changes and all the power that i have in vb.net

so yeah it's kinda hard but i think it is going to be worth it

RichardAtherton
Apr 6th, 2002, 07:31 AM
jpin the club!! - yes me too, I did not come from an object oriented background and I have had to totally rethink the way I design and build my applications as well as struggling to get to grips with ado.bet and databound controls.

I now spend a lot of my time away from the computer sitting down and sketching out on paper, exactly what my base form is going to do and then what the inherited forms will do, as well as the whole design of the application itself. I do find though that once I've done that the coding of the application part flies through and there are far less logic or coding errors.

and boy do I use and use and use the help files - but relly enjoying both the language and especially the development environment which is absolutely superb to work in.

formulav8
Apr 6th, 2002, 10:58 AM
I do find it alittle harder. The hardest thing for me is tranferring the old vb syntax, ect over to the vb.net type. I'm still figuring out all the events and stuff involved with the listbox control. BTW how would I change the listindex of the listbox to the value of x? :) BTW I just got the full version of vb.net in the mail last night.

jestupinan
Apr 6th, 2002, 09:20 PM
Well, I can recomend you to take a look at this places:
www.rational.com
www.devx.com/uml/

there you will find enough information to start OO designing and take advantage of the new OO features in VB.NET!!

Good luck!!