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Cander
Mar 27th, 2002, 09:03 AM
Mono 1.0 is out and you can actually compile and run some .NET apps on Linux..assuming you do not use classes that have not been implemented or comleted.

Gtk# is also getting there..Here is a pic of it is action

http://gtk-sharp.sourceforge.net/gtk-hello-world.png

DevGrp
Mar 27th, 2002, 09:16 AM
This is very cool. This is a good enough reason to reinstall Linux again.

I start testing this as soon as I get home.

Cander
Mar 27th, 2002, 09:53 AM
same here..I need to get out and get that longer ide cable to put in my new hard drive to install REd Hat on...(out of hd space on my primary drive)

Not much that can be done with Mono yet, but it would be interesting to start playing with it.

Cander
Mar 27th, 2002, 11:23 AM
good news..created a small console app in csharp..compiled in with the mono csharp compiler and ran it throught Line(reverse of what wine is)...and it worked..pretty cool.

Fool
Mar 27th, 2002, 11:31 AM
Can you use the exact same source for both Win and Linux?

Cander
Mar 27th, 2002, 11:40 AM
yes indeed! I used the exact same code for compiling with csc and mcs. In fact I was even able to run the exe by one in both the win32 conole and the line linux console.

thinktank2
Mar 27th, 2002, 12:25 PM
Originally posted by Cander
Mono 1.0 is out and you can actually compile and run some .NET apps on Linux..assuming you do not use classes that have not been implemented or comleted.

Gtk# is also getting there..Here is a pic of it is action

http://gtk-sharp.sourceforge.net/gtk-hello-world.png

Cander..you are really excited... aren't you ?? :p

The version of Mono you are refering to is Mono 0.10
from mono project website
Mar 27, 2002
Mono 0.10 is out! The self hosting release of Mono has been released.

A new version of the runtime, compiler and class libraries has been packaged for your download pleasure. Binaries are included. The Release Notes are available.
....


You have to wait at least 2 months(that's a +ve estimate) for version 1.0 release.

Cander
Mar 27th, 2002, 12:30 PM
i meant .10

no not really excited..just spreading the word as it is pretty interesting.

Cander
Mar 27th, 2002, 12:37 PM
The main point here is that mono .1 is proof of concept..whilst you may not be able to do too much with it as of yet, the fact that it works gives MS developers a new option to look forward to....Linux. No longer can Java goons shove the write once run anywhere mantra into our faces.:D

thinktank2
Mar 27th, 2002, 01:25 PM
I would love to see java eliminated from the face of the earth...

I finding it insulting when people claim that java is

1) A Open Standard Link (http://www.advisor.com/Articles.nsf/aid/LEEDH016)
2) Truely Cross Platform Link (http://www.javaworld.com/javaworld/jw-09-1996/jw-09-javaqa.html)

Cander
Mar 28th, 2002, 08:24 AM
Man my opinion of Open Source really got a solid reason for hateing it last night. Finally got my 2nd hard drive in, isntalled REd Hat 7.2, went to get Mono. After a quick crash course in nix shell commands..been 5 years since last used Unix, I went to try to isntall and compile Mono. After multi attempts, I realize I need gcc as I did not have it..got it downloaded and untared..went to compile it with ./configure...now I realize it needs another compiler to compile the compiler as no one seems to offer a precompiled gcc for linux. Couldnt find any other compilers anywhere..


Jesus what a pain... Guess Ill try again tonight...

Cander
Mar 28th, 2002, 09:07 AM
ahh finally found a gcc rpm from Red Hat...will try isntalling that tonight...

AMDPwred
Mar 28th, 2002, 06:43 PM
Originally posted by thinktank2
I would love to see java eliminated from the face of the earth...

What's so bad about Java?

JpEgy
Mar 28th, 2002, 06:58 PM
what about it's speed?

Scott Penner
Mar 28th, 2002, 08:08 PM
what speed?
:D

JpEgy
Mar 29th, 2002, 01:20 PM
java's speed...

thinktank2
Mar 29th, 2002, 03:20 PM
Originally posted by AMDPwred
What's so bad about Java?

Originally posted by JpEgy
what about it's speed?

http://www.salon.com/tech/col/garf/2001/01/08/bad_java/index.html

AMDPwred
Mar 29th, 2002, 04:56 PM
That was written over a year ago, by someone that must not be too bright. If you can't understand Java you probably shouldn't be a developer in the first place. Also, Java lacks speed in Applets. Not much else. No it isn't as fast as C++ but it isn't as bad as it once was. So "java sucks" because it isn't as fast as C++? I guess your understanding (and the guy that wrote that article) of what Java can do is faulty at best. I don't think Java was meant to be a desktop programming langauge like C++ (look at how much of a PITA AWT was). To me, Java is meant for backend coding and distributed network development. Not to create Word. I'd like some real reasons as to why you think java sucks so much.

kleptos
Mar 30th, 2002, 07:14 AM
I am sure this is somewhere here in forums, but i cant find it, where can i obtain a copy of the .NET implementation for Linux?

thinktank2
Mar 30th, 2002, 12:59 PM
Originally posted by AMDPwred
That was written over a year ago, by someone that must not be too bright.

If you can't understand Java you probably shouldn't be a developer in the first place.

Sorry, With your mindset, it is not worth explaining anything.
BTW, please note that the author is a Technology Consultant, and an ISP and not Joe - the average java programmer, who thinks he is the brightest of all.

AMDPwred
Mar 30th, 2002, 01:03 PM
Then it sucks for him I guess. I don't see the difficulty in java really. And I stick to my point, if you can't understand java you shouldn't be doing this stuff. Prove me wrong.