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j2k
Mar 16th, 2002, 04:09 AM
Yeah!!!!!! We have our forum!!! Nice work guys!
Anyway, my question: I have Windows XP, and have just received SuSE Linux 7.3 as a present :)
I was wondering, how would I go about duelbooting Linux with Windows XP, without losing my data as I really want to try Linux but don't have the time to back up 40 GB at present :rolleyes:
Any tips?
Cheers
JungleMan
Mar 16th, 2002, 06:09 AM
Get your hands on a copy of Partition Magic 7 which will let you shrink the size of your main partition. So you have a bunch of unallocated space.
Then install SuSE 7.3 and it will make a partition with that space, and install it's dual-boot software:)
j2k
Mar 16th, 2002, 11:42 AM
Hi jpbtennisman,
Have done that, and I am now posting via Linux - thanks :)
Now, the only problem is I can no longer boot into Windows!!!
I can see the Windows partition on the Linux desktop, and everything is there, but when I select Windows from the LILO, I get a message saying "Windows cannot boot, missing file <Windows Root>\System32\hal.dll - please reinstall this file and try again".
Now, how can I fix this, as I don't really want to reformat and lose my stuff, and I can't just install WinXP over the top as it's only the WinXP Home Upgrade :(
Any advice?
JungleMan
Mar 16th, 2002, 11:49 AM
Do you see the hal.dll file in the Windows directory while viewing from Linux?
mastermind94
Mar 16th, 2002, 11:53 AM
yeah that happened to me too!
Here's how i fixed it:
Go in the console repair thingny when u boot from the winxp cd, go in ur (cdrom)\i386 directory, spot the hal.dl_ file and extract it to the (windir)\system....... directory and bingo, you got it.
or, just do like if you would install winxp, while the setup scans for current windows version, select the detected one and press r for repair and setup will repair it for u
j2k
Mar 16th, 2002, 12:08 PM
Hi,
Yes, that would be all well and good, but Linux reports the C:\Windows directory is EMPTY!!
Surely this can't be right? I'm using Acronis OS Selector which claims it moves the C:\Windows folder, but where to?!
j2k
Mar 16th, 2002, 12:11 PM
ARGH! C:\Program Files is empty too!
JungleMan
Mar 16th, 2002, 12:20 PM
you must still have your old copy of Windows, so try to install XP home, it should prompt you for a Windows CD, so give it the Windows CD
j2k
Mar 16th, 2002, 12:25 PM
Hi,
Yeah, I know, but that was kinda like a last resort, as I don't want to reinstall my apps again if possible, registry entries etc etc.
JungleMan
Mar 16th, 2002, 12:29 PM
Originally posted by j2k
Hi,
Yeah, I know, but that was kinda like a last resort, as I don't want to reinstall my apps again if possible, registry entries etc etc.
Check your PM box
j2k
Mar 16th, 2002, 12:32 PM
:)
sail3005
Mar 16th, 2002, 01:02 PM
or, try using FDISK to restore your master boot record.
fdisk /mbr i believe
j2k
Mar 16th, 2002, 01:03 PM
That would be no use as C:\windows and C:\program files are goners :(
Gandalf_Grey_
Mar 16th, 2002, 01:05 PM
why don't you just let the intaller take care of that partitioning stuff? its much easier
sail3005
Mar 16th, 2002, 01:11 PM
how do you know that linux just isin't having trouble reading them?
j2k
Mar 16th, 2002, 01:12 PM
it's too late now!!
Oh btw, is there any way in SuSE to change the partition? I partitioned it to 25GB for windows, with 15GB for Linux, but in fact, I would like it 30GB for windows, and 10GB for Linux.
j2k
Mar 16th, 2002, 01:12 PM
Originally posted by sail3005
how do you know that linux just isin't having trouble reading them?
Because it won't boot into Windows XP even with a boot disk, it claims hal.dll is missing, but in fact, EVERYTHING is missing!!
sail3005
Mar 16th, 2002, 01:20 PM
did you try looking for the files in DOS?
use the /dir command.
linux sometimes has trouble reading my files
j2k
Mar 16th, 2002, 01:23 PM
Yes, I've looked everywhere, and have come to the conclusion, that sadly, Windows, along with all my Program Files, have been deleted.
Gandalf_Grey_
Mar 16th, 2002, 01:26 PM
if only you had let diskdrake handle it
Gandalf_Grey_
Mar 16th, 2002, 01:28 PM
if you have any important Data files look for a program called Get Data Back, we used it at school to get all the school records bakc (the secretary foolishly put the only copy of them on a 10 year old hard drive)
j2k
Mar 16th, 2002, 01:30 PM
diskdrake sounds mandrake-ish, this was SuSE!
JungleMan
Mar 16th, 2002, 01:31 PM
Originally posted by j2k
diskdrake sounds mandrake-ish, this was SuSE!
Maybe because it IS part of Mandrake. :p
j2k
Mar 16th, 2002, 01:32 PM
:)
j2k
Mar 16th, 2002, 01:33 PM
Any ideas on partitioning in linux? i should think it's via YaST2 somewhere, but where?
sail3005
Mar 16th, 2002, 01:33 PM
look for Recover 98 too. that is a great recovery program. it got everything i needed back after i formatted over my backup drive.
j2k
Mar 16th, 2002, 01:35 PM
I sure hope this software isn't for Windows, for obvious reasons :rolleyes:
sail3005
Mar 16th, 2002, 01:38 PM
i reinstalled windows and it still got the stuff back.
if you REALLY need your stuff back, then format your linux partition and install windows on there, then recover it off your dead windows partition.
Gandalf_Grey_
Mar 16th, 2002, 01:40 PM
fine not diskdrake, the Suse equivilent
j2k
Mar 16th, 2002, 01:42 PM
Originally posted by Gandalf_Grey_
fine not diskdrake, the Suse equivilent
YaST2 :p
So any ideas on changing the partitions?
sail - hmm, I'll think about that, but I'll try some other options first.
sail3005
Mar 16th, 2002, 01:45 PM
what do you mean changing the partitions?
j2k
Mar 16th, 2002, 01:51 PM
The disk is 40GB.
25GB is Windows ( :rolleyes: ), 15GB is Linux.
I want to make the Windows partition 30GB, and the Linux one 10GB. How?
Thanks
sail3005
Mar 16th, 2002, 01:53 PM
I am pretty sure that there are DOS utilities with partition magic that can do that. if not, as i said before, install windows on your linux partition, recover your files, adjust the partitions, and start from scratch.
j2k
Mar 16th, 2002, 01:55 PM
Well SuSE Linux claims it can resize partitions 'on-the-fly' - what it doesn't tell you, is how.
Gandalf_Grey_
Mar 16th, 2002, 01:58 PM
you could probably get diskdrake off the internet, or what you could do is plug the hard drive into the current computer on which you are communicating, and use partition magic on there or partition commander, or you could get something like diskdrake fof the internet, it is free
j2k
Mar 16th, 2002, 02:03 PM
The current computer on which I am communicating is this one! I'm just communicating via Mozilla in Linux!
Gandalf_Grey_
Mar 16th, 2002, 02:08 PM
i couldn't get my modem to work in linux cause it is a winmodem I am not paying $100 for a hadware modem either so i just go on the internet in windows
sail3005
Mar 16th, 2002, 02:10 PM
most distros that i have used support my network card, but a few don't.
i am gonna install redhat real soon
Gandalf_Grey_
Mar 16th, 2002, 02:22 PM
I have installed redhat before and found it REALLY REALLY picky. Mandrake was an easy install :)
mastermind94
Mar 16th, 2002, 02:30 PM
i am currently installing Mandrake 8.1 and i am getting that stupid error message after installing the rpms. "No list HD found" and goes back to package selection, click install and the same message appears... !!! Argh
j2k
Mar 17th, 2002, 09:50 AM
UPDATE
Decided Windows was more important than Linux, so repartitioned, erasing Linux and installed Windows XP. Linux will be installed on a test machine later, which will hopefully become a server.
Took literally 3 hours to get rid of Linux though, as good old Microsoft's fdisk utility refused to remove the non-dos partition, so I had to fill the disk with zeros using the dd command in linux.
Ah well, back on Windows XP now, thanks for everybody's help :)
sail3005
Mar 17th, 2002, 09:55 AM
i could have given you a utility that would erase and format the partition in seconds! you should have asked!
j2k
Mar 17th, 2002, 10:30 AM
lol, I'll bear that in mind next time ;)
Gandalf_Grey_
Mar 17th, 2002, 10:37 AM
what you COULD have done was take the HD out stuck it in another machine and used partition magic to get rid of linux
j2k
Mar 17th, 2002, 10:54 AM
I don't have Partition Magic, and I didn't have the time to download the "demo" ;) :D
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