VB .net @ warez websites

[proff.hacker]

any warez wesite to download vb .net :D

i won't pay for microsoft

[Cander]

get the SDK for free from MS

go here for a free IDE

http://www.icsharpcode.net

[proff.hacker]

i think it's for C# not visual basic .net


all the links i found to download the final relaese od vb .net are dead

:D

[Cander]

it is for VB also


you cant dopwnload VB .NET unless you are an MSDN subscriber


Download the SDK

http://msdn.microsoft.com/downloads/default.asp?url=/downloads/sample.asp?url=/msdn-files/027/000/976/msdncompositedoc.xml&frame=true

the compiler is included so you write apps in notepad if you wish..but icsharp is better

[proff.hacker]

so how can I design the interface ?


I am sure that VB .NET is available on the internet to download but in somewhere we dont know:cool:

[Cander]

you can design it with code..harder yes....but it is workable...I have written some interfaces with straight code in VB .NET..it is really not that hard.


As far as where to get VB .NET...I dont condonde or use warez so I have no clue.:p

try searching google..or newsgroups

[proff.hacker]

I have to say thanks Cander


I'll search and if i found one i'll post it if it's allowed

[Nicomachus]

I highly doubt its allowed on the board, surprised its not locked .. but anyway you can get the Academic version for of vs.NET Pro for 99$ .. which is extremely cheap compared to the retail ~$1,000 price tag ..
Nico

[Serge]

Originally posted by proff.hacker
I have to say thanks Cander


I'll search and if i found one i'll post it if it's allowed
Please, no warez on the site. What you do outside of VBWorld is your own matter, but let's keep it that way ;)

[newb]

where to buy the academic version ? is it the full professional version or does academic version mean to develop academic applications for staff and students ? thats what the msdn says. could u post the URL where i can buy an academic version for 99 $. i am still in school. thanks

[DevGrp]

If you are in College you can get it at the college book store. If not ask someone you know who is in college to get it for you.

[JpEgy]

www.neo-modus.com and download direct connect, it's the best share prog ever. U can connect to lots of hubs (servers ran by users-for-users) and get all the new cool stuff.

[genode]

It is not that expensive...$100

Granted it is not vs.net, but if you are not going to code C#....

Geno

[Cander]

heck..even if you wnt to code in c# and all you have is VB .NET, you still can..The framework has the C# compiler so you can write C# with just notepad...It is just that the IDE only supports VB .NET.


newb: The academic version is a full complete version, with some added features for teachers. The only real difference I would venture to guess is the liscense.. Cant sell apps written on it probably..But if you are selling apps you write with it, you can probably afford to get a regular liscense.

[kleptos]

Just Buy It.... Plain And Simple, Speedy Service, Complete App's & Files, Virus Free....

[hellswraith]

newb: The academic version is a full complete version, with some added features for teachers. The only real difference I would venture to guess is the liscense.. Cant sell apps written on it probably..But if you are selling apps you write with it, you can probably afford to get a regular liscense


There are NO extra features for teachers... The Academic version is there so students can get there hands on the software at a reasonable price (and so they get hooked on it and they end up using it in the workplace when they get out of school). It is exactly the same as the Professional Edition (if that is the academic version you bought) and doesn't limit your functionality in any way. I know this because I have and used the Academic versions before. The lisence agreement is what limits you. You cannot distribute apps that you write with it. So if you want to start distributing your apps you built, you need to fork over the dough and buy a standard professional license that allows you to distribute.

[Cander]

ok explain this then

http://www.msdnaa.net/technologies/vsnetacademic.asp

[hellswraith]

Guess your right, I was going from past experience... Like they say here:

This is the first time that Microsoft has built technology into Visual Studio to serve professors and students exclusively.

It's their first time. So basically your getting more product for less money still....except you still can't create programs with it and sell it....

"Use" shall mean the non-commercial use of the Product by Faculty, Staff and/or Students solely to: (a) develop, support, and conduct educational classes, labs or related programs offered by Qualified Educational User which have been approved for participation in the MSDN Academic Alliance Program; (b) conduct non-commercial research projects utilizing the Product (note: research done on behalf of the National Science Foundation or the U.S. Government qualifies as "non-commercial" research); and/or (c) design, develop and test software applications or hardware that work in conjunction with the Product only for the purposes as listed in Section 1.5(a) or 1.5(b). "Use" under this Amendment shall not include the use of the Product for general business purposes other than by Qualified Educational User's employees engaged in support and user support of the Product and the management of compliance with the MSDN Academic Alliance Program.

[Redth]

ahem... i heard that one of the versions in a collection of umm not me, is from direct connect....

but that's just heresay...

neways:


can get there hands on the software at a reasonable price (and so they get hooked on it and they end up using it in the workplace when they get out of school).


this is how i consider warez... at this point, i don't make enough money to buy visual studio.net... and yes, i do need to distribute my stuff... i need to save money for schooling...

m$ would rather have me pirate their software than someone elses.. really... at least im using THEIR software... helping towards their monopoly... and if i do ever get the cash to buy the software, who's am i gonna buy? theirs of course, since i am used to working with it, and like it....

now, i know piracy is actually stealing... and some will say if u don't have the $$$, you shouldn't be using it, just like you shouldn't steal a bike or something...

i don't have much to say to that... that is pretty right, but there's still something there that is different... it's not physically taking something... and i will continue in my habits... until i have the money..

yeah, it's nicer having purchased software... you get the disks, manuals (in paper), and customer support, which is part of the purchase, so you aren't stealing everything when you pirate ;)

darned thing is, we are making ourselves a big hole...

we pirate, prices increase due to piracy... more people pirate due to price increase, price increases, etc etc.... sucks... lol..

so neways...

that's what i hafta say on that matter...

feel free to ridicule me :D

[hellswraith]

I will go ahead and argue the point of piracy... at least a little bit.

I agree some what on your point of view. It sucks when you can't afford the software. The only valid excuse I can think of for pirating software like .Net is if you can't legally try out the software before you buy it. But if you like it and want to keep it, then pay the money for it. MS is handing out the 90 day trial versions at all of their events, I am sure you can get ahold of one to try. I have used pirated software before myself, but only because I couldn't try the software before I bought it (sometimes it is easier to find a pirated version than a stupid trial version). If I liked it, I would then buy it.

As for the "I am a poor student" excuse, it's not a good one. I can't just go out and purchase expensive software either, but I can save up money. I don't care who you are and what you do, you can come up with the 250 dollars you need to buy .net legally. It is all in your priorities. You can get a job, even if your only 17 years old. Maybe they aren't the jobs you want, but you can get a job. I have been working since the age of 13 in order to buy things that I have wanted in life. Saving 20 a month will get you the money within a year. So you have to wait a while for it, not everyone gets what they want when they want it. This is the real world, get used to it. What do you do when you need new computer hardware? Do you go steal it? It's the same thing (although a lot easier), just in a different form.

Are you selling your software? If you are, do you take the same stance with your software when people pirate it?

Still this thread shouldn't even be an issue with .Net. You don't even need to buy the VS.Net software to develop in .Net. You can use Notepad to do your development, and use the free compilers that MS distributes with the .Net Framework SDK. All you buy when you get VS.Net is the IDE. Yes it makes things easier, but you don't need it. All the Help files are at the MSDN library site, so you can refer to those when you need help. So pirating VS.Net is just plain stealing no "ifs", "ands" or "buts" about it, you don't need it to develop .Net apps.

That is my shortened stance on piracy... feel free to ridicule me also...