Need help with network cards

[Fox]

Sorry if it's not the right place to ask this, but I really need help...
OK, the problem is that I have 2 Computers, a HUB and a cable modem and I don't know why but I can't connect the modem to the HUB, just doesn't work. But I want both computers connected to the modem ;). So I installed a second network card to one computer to do the following connections:

Computer1 <-> Modem
Computer1 <-> HUB
Computer2 <-> HUB

Well, I also installed all needed protocols but Windows98 only pays attention to the first network card, no matter what's connected there. Does anyone know another solution to do this *without* buy any new hardware?

Thanks in advance

[Edited by Fox on 04-06-2000 at 10:40 PM]

Well I wanted to do the same, the trick is first of all, did you connect the CABLE MODEM with cross end wires? if you're not sure, buy a small 5' cross wire (the ends look same but the wiring is crossed, I think it's called a cross paired wire too, I forgot it slipped out of my mind).. if that doesn't work, then here's a solution that one of my friends told me who's done this ****... ok you got all the nessecery stuff, the reason the other computer doesn't recognize the other computer is because you both have the SAME IP, the SAME IP that you got from your cable company... ring a bell?? (I hope it did), now the computer will say, ok, we got 2 computers on the hub, both of them are same IP, that's not right, only one computer can have this address so I'll use the host computer.. here's what you can do, see if you can get a "proxy server" (it's software) and then install the proxy server, and then it'll give you virtual IPs (LAN IPs) each computer will have seperate Virtual IPs but when they connect to internet it'll be same IP... once you do that the computer will recognize both computers, and the proxy server will give each one access to the internet... the proxy server should be installed on the "HOST" computer, this the computer which is DIRECTLY connected to the cable modem... now if I'm right, you have total of 3 NIC cards and 1 hub and one cable modem..?? right? one nic is connected to Cable Modem, 2nd Nic is connected to HUB, these 2 are in first computer, and the 3rd nic is in 2nd computer which is also connected to HUB, so all you need now is a proxy server, don't ask me where to get one, cause I don't know where to get on... Microsoft Proxy is good, my cable company used to use it, but then they switched to another proxy server which is hosted on an UNIX computer, but if you want the addy to it, here it is: http://squid.nlanr.net/Squid/

[HarryW]

I'm pretty sure it's 'twisted pair' :)

In catalogues and adverts they say it's 'UTP', which is 'unshielded twisted pair', I think. I think the usual kind of cable to getm as it's written in magazines, is 'CAT 5 UTP' or something similar.

[Fox]

Uh, I think that's not the problem... (I've got shielded twisted pairs here)
Anyway, thanks alot for ya help! I'll try to do a proxy now, maybe that was the problem. But I still think it has something to do with windows ;)

[privoli]

This is the way I did my LAN when I first started...

2 * PC's
2 * Intel EtherExpress 16 (ISA Cards)
1 * UTP Twisted Pair (Modified to Cross Over cable)
1 * Windows 95
1 * Windows 98
TCP/IP on both pc's for the Intel Ether Express.

PC1 = Server
PC2 = Workstation

PC - Subnet - IP Address
---------------------------------
PC1 - 255.255.255.0 - 192.168.5.1
PC2 - 255.255.255.0 - 192.168.5.2

Both MUST be in the same workgroup.
But both pc names MUST be different.

If you AREN'T using a Cross Over cable you'll need a hub.
A crossover cable is a cheap alternative to a hub.

Boot up both the pc's then open a DOS prompt.
Try and ping the other PC. If each PC can ping
each other, then try seeing whats in Network Neighbourhood.
You should see both pc's there :)

Cheers!

[Fox]

Hehe thx ;), but the LAN works perfectly and BTW: I've got a HUB. Anyway, thanks for trying to help.

so fox, by saying that, u mean the cable modem and everything works perfectly now?? if so, did you try a proxy server or something??

[Fox]

Oh, the modem works fine, that was never the problem ;)

I still think windows doesn't work with the second installed NIC. I tried to connect just the modem with the second card and that doens't work. So whatever I connect on the first NIC works, and on the second not. I have no idea where the problem could be but if I get a solution I'll post here...

[HarryW]

Fox, could you just have simpler problems please? You'd make life much easier for the rest of us :)

[Fox]

Oh Harry, thats a really good idea...

But life doesn't make any sense without problems ya know ;)

[Fox]

OK, I found a solution:

First the problem was really the cable, wasn't a crossed one ;). Then I downloaded WinProxy to manage the IPs. Works fine now :)


Well, if anyone knows how to get ICQ running on the PCs managed by WinProxy please let me know...

[HarryW]

When you first install ICQ it asks you stuff about your LAN if that's how you're accessing the internet (You've probably done this). Do you know anything more about the problem? Any error messages? Anything?

I don't know why I'm even boithering to try and help, it will be far too difficult, as always ;)