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Hyperspaced
Dec 29th, 2001, 06:26 PM
Hello all,

Many contradictions are heard about VS.NET and it's requirements. I thought to post some questions to clear things out for many people (myself included).

1) Operating system: Does it run on Win98SE ? (something is heard about MS releasing a patch to enable Win98 support; is it true at all ?)

2) Client computers: Will computers running Win9x be able to run NET applications ?

3) Final release: When will the final release of the product be available ?

4) Is VB.NET really THAT better from VB 6 ?

5) What about C# ? Is it worth learning? Is it as efficient as VC++ ?

6) ***Book recommendations please !!!*** Any recommended books either on VB.NET or C# or VC++ !!


That's it for now...!!.. If anyone feels like explaining or providing links to other resources, please do so !!!!!!1

Thanks

Cander
Jan 2nd, 2002, 08:54 AM
1) Operating system: Does it run on Win98SE ? (something is heard about MS releasing a patch to enable Win98 support; is it true at all ?)

I have heared conflicting tales here also, but I beleive it is supposed to run on 98.

2) Client computers: Will computers running Win9x be able to run NET applications ?

As long as the framework works on that platform then yes. See answer #1

3) Final release: When will the final release of the product be available ?

Feb. 13

4) Is VB.NET really THAT better from VB 6 ?

Yes. :)

5) What about C# ? Is it worth learning? Is it as efficient as VC++ ?

If the .NET picks up as planned C# will be a good learn since if and when the framework is ported to non-MS OS' it is C# that will be that language for developing on those OS'. Although any language written on a Windows .NET platform should still run on the other systems. As far as efficiency, I cant really compare C# to C++ since I have hardly used C++ much, but C# seems very powerful and fast compared to JAVA.

6) ***Book recommendations please !!!*** Any recommended books either on VB.NET or C# or VC++ !!

Wrox has some really good .NET books out that are worth picking up, BUT I would wait until after Feb when the final release is out since most books are based on Beta 2 right now and even though changes are minor as far as a developer would notice, it would still be best to wait just in case. Until then check out these web resources which are excellent

http://www.gotdotnet.com

books:
http://www.wrox.com

Edneeis
Jan 2nd, 2002, 10:09 AM
For question #1

Not for me it didn't. Although now I have Win 2k so it works now, but under a 98 and ME machine it didn't work. I forgot the specific problem, I just remember it didn't work.

numtel
Jan 3rd, 2002, 07:23 AM
i tried installing beta 2 on win98 and it said that it wouldnt work, i bet that if it tried really hard that it would work tho

Hyperspaced
Jan 4th, 2002, 10:02 AM
Thanks Cander & everybody else.

(Cander : the links you posted are great indeed !)

danny1l
Jan 20th, 2002, 04:11 AM
I hear you need to develop on NT or greater, but apps will run on W98 or better.

AutoBot
Jan 21st, 2002, 06:15 PM
Here you go:

The tables below list requirements for different installation options of Visual Studio .NET. The Notes following the tables apply to both tables.



System Requirements for Installing Visual Studio .NET Versions
Visual Studio .NET
Enterprise Architect Enterprise Developer Professional Academic
Processor PC with a Pentium II-class processor, 450 MHz
(recommended: Pentium III-class, 600MHz)

RAM1 Windows NT 4.0 Workstation — 64 MB, Windows NT 4.0 Server — 160 MB
(recommended: 96 MB for Workstation, 192 MB for Server)

Windows 2000 Professional — 96 MB; Windows 2000 Server — 192 MB

(recommended: 128 MB for Professional, 256 MB for Server)

Windows XP Professional — 160 MB

(recommended: 192 MB)

Windows XP Home — 96 MB

(recommended: 160 MB)

Available Hard Disk Space2 600 MB on system drive, 3 GB installation drive
Operating System3, 4 Windows 2000®, Windows XP, and Windows NT 4.0
CD-ROM or DVD-ROM Drive5 Required
Video 800 x 600, 256 colors (recommended: High Color 16-bit)
Mouse Microsoft mouse or compatible pointing device



System Requirements for Installing Individual Languages
Visual Basic .NET Visual C++ .NET Visual C# .NET
Processor PC with a Pentium II-class processor, 450 MHz
(recommended: Pentium III-class, 600MHz)

RAM1 Windows NT 4.0 Workstation — 64 MB, Windows NT 4.0 Server — 160 MB
(recommended: 96 MB for Workstation, 192 MB for Server)

Windows 2000 Professional — 96 MB; Windows 2000 Server — 192 MB

(recommended: 128 MB for Professional, 256 MB for Server)

Windows XP Professional — 160 MB

(recommended: 192 MB)

Windows XP Home — 96 MB

(recommended: 160 MB)

Available Hard Disk Space2 600 MB on system drive, 1.5 GB installation drive 600 MB on system drive, 2 GB installation drive 600 MB on system drive, 1.5 GB installation drive
Operating System3, 4 Windows 2000®, Windows XP and Windows NT 4.0
CD-ROM or DVD-ROM Drive5 Required
Video 800 x 600, 256 colors (recommended: High Color 16-bit)
Mouse Microsoft mouse or compatible pointing device



Notes
Performance has not been tuned for minimum system configuration. Increasing your RAM above the recommended system configuration increases your performance specifically when running multiple applications, working with large projects, or doing enterprise-level development.
When you start the Visual Studio .NET installer, the default installation location is your system drive, which is the drive that boots your system. However, you can install the application on any drive. Regardless of the application's location, the installation process installs some files on your system drive. Consequently, ensure that the required amount of space identified in the tables above is available on your system drive regardless of the application's location, and ensure that additional space is available on the drive on which you install the application. Custom installation choices may require more or less hard-disk space.
Windows 95, Windows 98, Windows 98 Second Edition, and Windows ME are not supported platforms for design and development for Visual Studio .NET. You can deploy applications and remotely debug applications in the Windows 98 and Windows ME platform environments.
Microsoft Windows 2000 Datacenter Server is not a supported operating system.
A CD-ROM or DVD-ROM is required based on the type of media provided with the product.

Hyperspaced
Jan 21st, 2002, 07:36 PM
I don't BELIEVE IT !!!!!!!

Visual Studio 6 was running PERFECTLY on my AMD K6-2 450MHz/ 128 MB RAM....

From what I am reading, I need to upgrade to a Pentium III class machine (or above) with more than 192MB RAM and, of course, the most important : I have to shift my beloved Win98SE to WINDOWS XP !!!!!!?????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?????????!!!!!!!!!!

OOooohhh, I forgot, my 9.1GB SCSI drive is now inadequate....

kleptos
Jan 22nd, 2002, 01:25 PM
Microsoft is doing their part to boost component sales, hard drives, memory, everything is so cheap these days that people need to upgrade or get left behind. Thats just the way it is....