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Mih_Flyer
Dec 28th, 2001, 04:05 PM
hello,
i use PHP, but some people say ASP is much better,, as i can see, both ASP and PHP do the same thing, i mean every single function in PHP is availble in ASP,,and vice versa,,,,What do you think?? should i continue useing PHP or should i move to ASP...
this is a big problem to me,,, coz i don't want to spend much time in learning some thing an then i find out that i was wrong,, please tell your opinion,,,
another point,,, is PHP gonna disappear after ASP.Net.. ??
if so,, them i think i should move to ASP,,,,maybe JSP...
Thanx alot

filburt1
Dec 28th, 2001, 04:33 PM
My site is written entirely in JSP and HTML.

Wynd
Dec 28th, 2001, 05:38 PM
Stick with PHP. It's platform-independent.

filburt1
Dec 28th, 2001, 06:13 PM
So is JSP.

scoutt
Dec 28th, 2001, 07:27 PM
it really is all up to you. which ever one you find is easier to learn then stick with it. none of them is going away.

ASP is said to be a slower and more cumbersome language than PHP, less stable as well. Some of the pros of ASP is that since it primarily uses VBScript it's relatively easy to pick up the language if you're already know how to program in Visual Basic. ASP support is also enabled by default in the IIS server making it easy to get up and running. The components built in ASP are really limited, so if you need to use "advanced" features like interacting with FTP servers, you need to buy additional components.



Arien, I like your avatar, who is????

filburt1
Dec 28th, 2001, 07:53 PM
Originally posted by scoutt
Arien, I like your avatar, who is????

Dennis, hence my status. :)

sail3005
Dec 28th, 2001, 08:07 PM
Definatly PHP, or JSP. I think PHP is better though because it's completely free, and runs very good with Apache and MySQL.

filburt1
Dec 28th, 2001, 08:31 PM
JSP is free and runs well with Tomcat which runs well with Apache. :D :D

made_of_asp
Dec 28th, 2001, 10:40 PM
ASP vs PHP .... PHP is fater than ASP


CGI PHP is slower than ASP because ASP takes advantage of ISAPI.

i think speed is something that isnt that important, as long as you cant see the problem.

check out my server-side langauge: GSP. It is hard but server-indpendant (http://www.vbforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=127329&highlight=GSP)

sail3005
Dec 29th, 2001, 01:08 AM
cool
:cool:

JoshT
Jan 2nd, 2002, 09:19 AM
And the stable Windows version of PHP was still CGI, last time I checked.

And ASP using Perlscript gives ASP a significant speed boost, at least in my tests.

Cudabean
Jan 2nd, 2002, 11:26 AM
Both PHP and ASP are scaleable--you can make them go and handle as much net traffic as you want with enough hardware and connection resources.

The reasons to choose PHP over ASP:
:) Platform independent
:) Not locked into IIS which has shown its potential to be fairly insecure
:) Less expense

The reasons you might choose ASP over PHP:
:) More common so it's easier to hire experienced and competent staff
:) Abundant addons, however, if you use a single addon you run the risk of making your site very expensive to host. The standard cheap hosting service charges $US 100 per month to host, but any standard cheap host may not have your particular set of addons, you'll have to find an alternative. Worst case is you'll have to lease an entire server and manage it yourself, but in that case you can load on all of the most obscure addons you can find. Bottom line here is to build your site with no addons except perhaps email sending (CDONTS or JMAIL) which is very common.

My preference of the two is PHP. Right now I'm using JSP for everything I do. However, before even considering JSP, you should have a moderate ability in writing Java.

cudabean

chrismitchell
Jan 2nd, 2002, 12:13 PM
I personally like ASP.. thats just cause I understand it .. :p

goudabuddha
Jan 3rd, 2002, 07:33 AM
PHP all the way

parksie
Jan 4th, 2002, 01:12 PM
With apache you can have mod_php which means that the server itself parses the pages - resulting in no CGI overhead.

In the same vein, there's mod_perl.

ubunreal69
Jan 5th, 2002, 01:59 AM
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Its easier and based on VBS :) i love it. i tried PHP for a bit but found it too unfamiliar and confusing.

ME!

chrisjk
Jan 5th, 2002, 10:46 AM
PHP + MySQL = Teh r0x0r

http://www.php.net/usage.php

JoshT
Jan 7th, 2002, 11:25 AM
ASP + PerlScript + MSSQL !!!

And why does everyone like MySQL so much -- there's a couple of other free *nix DB systems out there that are supposed to be just as good? (And I don't mean to be bashing MySQL by that).

parksie
Jan 7th, 2002, 11:30 AM
Such as PostgreSQL :)

MySQL is faster, but PS scales better.

JoshT
Jan 7th, 2002, 11:38 AM
That, and there's a mSQL, and at least one more big one.

I know ISPs like MySQL because it'll run efficiently on a web server, rather than requiring dedicated hardware.

scoutt
Jan 7th, 2002, 06:59 PM
I also know that MySql will hold up to something like 20gigs now but I don't know how much the other ones will hold.

chrisjk
Jan 7th, 2002, 07:07 PM
a MySQL table can be 8 million TERRAbytes, sadly no OS supports that so the max is a "mere" 8 terrabytes

http://www.mysql.com/doc/T/a/Table_size.html

scoutt
Jan 7th, 2002, 07:14 PM
that's right. I new it was much bigger the version 3, but didn't quite remember the exact storage value. If I remember right it is much bigger than Access but don't quote me on that. ;)

chrisjk
Jan 7th, 2002, 08:28 PM
*smirk* Just a tad! Access = 2Gb per DB!

Randy_Bartels
Jan 10th, 2002, 01:26 AM
I'm using MySQL and PostgreSQL and I must say MySQL has some really good features although MYSQL has BLOBS that are stored in the table itself and not on the server (as files) like in PGSQL. BUT: there is one big point that lets me prefer PGSQL: It is not yet possible to use inner joins and subqueries (as far as I know) in MySQL and this is a very big point!!!! PGSQL is much more SQL92 compatible than MYSQL!! andthis is a BIG BIG reason (at least for me) to use POSTGRESQL!